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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:53 am

    What could happen to Strikeforce 2 years from now....

    Strikeforce will not become the next Pride and simply be dissolved into the abyss. Strikeforce will indeed remain an organ ization separa te to the UFC but will become the apprentice league, division 2 of the UFC. The UFC will rename the Strikeforce organization to something like 'UFC Challengers' and this will be the division 2 league that requires a fighter win 3 consecutive fights in order to progress to division 1, the UFC. On the flip side, it becomes the division that receives fighter from the UFC who have lost 3 consecutive fights and is the entry point for many other organizations and for many of the TUF alumni to begin a UFC career even if they have not done as well in their TUF season.

    Therefore, TUF will be moved to UFC Challengers and all TUF semi finalists plus some notable quarter finalists will be contracted as a UFC Challenger. The winner of TUF will gain direct entry into the UFC and the runner up will stay in UFC Challengers but will only require 1 victory in order to progress to the UFC. If the runner up loses both his first 2 fights, he will once again require 3 consecutive victories in order to progress to the UFC, division 1.

    This type of structure means less fighters will be over hyped without the required amount of legitamacy (ie: Kimbo Slice), creates an apprenticeship model for fighters to certify themselves prior to division 1, the UFC, and a path for development of good fighters (UFC Challengers) to become great fighter (UFC).



    This is a sample of what the rules could be.



    Division 2: UFC Challengers

    -Entry point into UFC for any fighter outside of the organisation

    -Entry point into UFC from TUF fighters

    -The season TUF semi finalist is an automatic UFC Challenger entrant

    -The season TUF Fighter who doesn't make the semi finals but who the fans elect will be granted UFC Challengers entry

    -The season TUF runner up requires 1 win in order to progress to the UFC

    -All fighters require 3 consecutive wins in order to automatically progress to the UFC

    -A top contender from another organization requires 1 consecutive wins to progress to the UFC

    -All previous UFC Champions require only 2 consecutive wins to progress to Division 1 - UFC Challengers

    -End of year, a mini GP event allows for the top 4 fighters in each weight class in division 2 to challenge to bottom 4 fighters in the UFC to compete for a spot in the UFC, division 1. From the beginning of the following year the winners will gain entry or remain in the UFC, division 1.



    Division 1: UFC

    -Entry point into division 1, the UFC, for fighters progressing through from the UFC Challengers

    -Entry point into division 1, the UFC, for current Champions from different organizations

    -Entry point into division 1, the UFC, for current TUF Champion

    -All fighters can lose 3 consecutive fights before being relegated to UFC Challengers

    -All UFC Champions are provided 4 consecutive losses before relegation to UFC Challengers


    This article will hopefully open the conversation and maybe Dana and Lozeno will see this to spark some interest to create a true divisional structure for the UFC, thus creating the worlds first true and measurable MMA league\divisional world structure.

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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:03 am

    that would mean we would be seeing the same fights all the time .. more than we do already
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:08 am

    It will be more fighters available. this is including SF fighters. Not to mention Eddie Alverez and Hector Lombard and other guys who will eventually fight for dana.

    Dude its plenty of fighters!!
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:41 am

    this means different fights more consistently i like it
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:32 am

    i hate this zuffa monopoly.. i thought boxing was bad having to many leagues and to many weight classes but just having zuffa is even worse
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:49 am

    sabby_92 wrote:this means different fights more consistently i like it

    Exactly!! I Like the idea too. Less fighters cut. Hopefully this crosses the table!! If this ever happened, I could see a union a few years after.

    How this merger works out in the future nobody knows. The one thing we do know is dana is doing his best to make this a legitimate sport.
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:54 am

    RajisBoss123 wrote:i hate this zuffa monopoly.. i thought boxing was bad having to many leagues and to many weight classes but just having zuffa is even worse

    Yeah Dana is ann ass, but without Zuffa, where would the MMA landscape be?? I didnt watch MMA till I seen a ufc on tv!! There's a couple more million people out there that would tell u the same thing Raj!!
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:38 am

    sooo you think i care about the sport being mainstream i know thats dana goal cause of money ..but i liked it when i was the only one who knew what this cage fighting stuff was. now theres to many posers and now its o yeah you do mma well join the club... and dana doesnt own zuffa the fretitas do
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:38 am

    Raj do u ever hear urself?? you're either not a real fan or a super hater. What real fan doesnt care about the sport going mainstream and seeing more fights. Any business is about money, and this is the wrong subject to imply dana being greedy. What was scott coker's goal?? Was he trying to get it to go mainstream or just make money??

    I know u dont like dana, but I'm just looking for opinions on the topic at hand. U being the 1st mma fan and the fretitas owning zuffa rather than dana has nothing to do with a future UFC challengers division!
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:22 am

    yeah im with dist, raj if it wasnt for the monopoly that is zuffa there would be no mma just like if there wasnt a monopoly that is mcdonalds there would be no fast food lol what a comparison! the point is every major sport is a monopoly the nfl, did u even know there was a cfl or a afl? and the nba, the nba is the only major basketball league in america same as the mlb they are all monopoly's looking for our money
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    Post by WarCraved1115 Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:31 am

    I like this idea, but would that mean only the crappy fighters remain in SF?
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:31 pm

    not really crappy fighters, like if this were to happen hardy would be in sf and if lyoto lost to couture he would go down to sf so u still have good fighters in sf
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    Post by Lucas-JiuJitsu Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:20 pm

    boring
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    Post by WarCraved1115 Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:25 pm

    Yeah, seems like a pretty good idea dude, sounds kickass. I hope they decide to do this big smile
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:00 pm

    how is it boring lucas u dumbass sf already does it with sf challengers
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:10 pm

    sabby_92 wrote:how is it boring lucas u dumbass sf already does it with sf challengers

    thats why i didnt even respond to him. the division scenerio could change the face of mma, and he said boring. him and raj havent been the same since rua lost!!
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:16 pm

    lol
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    Post by WarCraved1115 Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:21 pm

    Does Raj realize that if MMA didn't become main stream, then we wouldn't have great fighters like Cain Velasquez, Jon Fitch, Jon Jones, etc.
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:30 pm

    lol im not even gunna read your responses .. and half those fighters were fighting before it was main stream
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:30 pm

    no he doesnt lol
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:31 pm

    dude mma became mainstream when forrest and bonnar fought the views bewteen rd 1 and rd 2 went through the roof
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    Post by WarCraved1115 Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:35 pm

    That was in 2005, and i don't think cain, jon, and jones ever fought before then bro, and only fitch fought before then, when it became mainstream you werent like the first person to watch it, your only fucking 16!
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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:36 pm

    yeah i know he thinks he is the biggest mma fan here and he is one of the youngest here lol he prbly doesnt even know what sf started out as
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:52 pm

    LOL Raj has probably seen some stuff. His family is involved in the business, but to call himself a bigger mma fan than us is ludacris!!
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    Post by Lucas-JiuJitsu Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:13 pm

    did i say strike force chalengers wasnt boring ?
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 7:41 pm

    just to make things clear idk why every one compares strikeforce to ufc .. strikeforce was still a growing company no where the level of ufc it annoyed the shit outa me whenever they were compared, why on earth would you compare a multi billion dollar company that been around for almost 20 years, to a company thats been around for 5 years that didnt even branch out till 2009, they were just doing there own thing ..Gosh damn fucking zuffa monopoly and fucking san jose sharks i hate you( reason why scott had to sell his shares of strikeofrce to zuffa)
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:01 pm

    Nobody compares them. Those years r way off too. Try 10 and 3.
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:04 pm

    are you kidding me dist every event they are compared lol
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    Post by WarCraved1115 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:05 pm

    i just want to have fun, MMA is one of my biggest hobbies, I dont get why people have to argue all the goddamn time, seriously... We both like the same thing!
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:10 pm

    its not a hobby to me ..its my life
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    Post by WarCraved1115 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:14 pm

    Well is that why you have to judge everything everyone does here? I dont wanna be pissed off at anybody, never have been yet lol, but you have to realize that everything you think is only an opinion... Thinking dana is a punk and unprofessional is seriously only an opinion, same with what i say. So next time try not to take everything so sensetive, and dont leave the chat when you get too pissy alright? Im done
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    Post by RajisBoss123 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:24 pm

    war your not my mother
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    Post by Dist205 Mon Mar 28, 2011 8:36 pm

    WarCraved1115 wrote:Well is that why you have to judge everything everyone does here? I dont wanna be pissed off at anybody, never have been yet lol, but you have to realize that everything you think is only an opinion... Thinking dana is a punk and unprofessional is seriously only an opinion, same with what i say. So next time try not to take everything so sensetive, and dont leave the chat when you get too pissy alright? Im done

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    Post by Messiah2dgod Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:04 pm

    Dist205 wrote:
    WarCraved1115 wrote:Well is that why you have to judge everything everyone does here? I dont wanna be pissed off at anybody, never have been yet lol, but you have to realize that everything you think is only an opinion... Thinking dana is a punk and unprofessional is seriously only an opinion, same with what i say. So next time try not to take everything so sensetive, and dont leave the chat when you get too pissy alright? Im done

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    Post by Lucas-JiuJitsu Mon Mar 28, 2011 9:06 pm

    lol who are you to say raj judge everyone here sabby ? (i know war wrote it but oyu are agreeing and for war its ok ) you and your back up your opinion bla bla bla
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    lol lucas waaaa i gota make my print big to prove a point waaaaa waaaawaaaa haha you guys are like trying to teach retards

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