Sabby* ur wrong

i dont spend all day at the bj site i hardly go their the only reason why i go there for my stories, it shows up on my facebook and bj is not even my favorite fighter i love brazil to, i love america my favorite fighter is not even american born, ur just giving dan shit and saying he is not a legend which is fucking stupid, look at the list of fighters he beat, his age. he is a legend, i know people lose they all do and by the fucking way im the first person here to back up a fighter if he loses. fedor is overrated and has been for 6 yrs who in the fuck has he fought since 2005, his training camp sucks, he stays in russia doesnt bring in any killers to train him, he should be bringing bjj killers ask a eddie bravo to send a grappler out to russia to roll with him iron is only gonna sharpen iron, hendo gets his ass kicked in training camp all the time, when u train with sonnen linland couture griffen ur gonna be good.

Agreed. hendo is a legend!

pls keep it clean guys ..

keep this about opinions

i am mario i am not degrading any1 here im just saying that lucas opinion is completely if u dont think hendo is legend its like saying michael jordan is not a legend in basketball

i know bro ..

opinions

u 2 lucas !

how is hendo not a legend he consistently fights the best, fedor doesnt, hendo fought silva frankling bisping shields fejiao, fedor ducks gets easy opponents and loses to the first 2 real opponents he fought in 7 yrs

dude the thing is i just dont htink he is a legend. and why tha fuck i wouldnt know about MMA just if i dont think he is a legend ?

cause he is a legend ur stupid if u think otherwise ask anybody who watches mma and is a fan of all of mma they will say he is a legend, he has beaten the best, he the only person to hold a title in 3 different promotions, he won a title at 40 yrs old, he is a legend, how in the fuck can u say other wise. TELL ME IN SPECIFIC DETAIL the man who has beaten franklin ko'd bisping beat nog, beaten wandy, won belts in different promotions, competed in the olympics, the world cup grapling tourny pan american tourny tell me how he is not a legend

Thx for getting my post closed guys, I appreciate that!!

Leave Luke alone. Some people cant handle the truth. He's gonna believe what he wants. He loves his Brazilians the same way I stick up for the black guys. He still should have an open mind, but hey, to each is own.

King Mo will fuck everybody up in SF IMO

shit king mo has a future he trains with miller and another killer he has time to grow and i dont care who u support i think silva and the nogs and rua are good fighters but im unbiased in every fight i will tell u who will win or lose imo i dont care who fights, bj, tito, gsp, shields, serra, lesnar, etc u give me a match-up ill tell u but u cant deny history, fedor fought no names sure there was tim syliva but im pretty sure anyone if lucas got the fight to the ground he could tap him, and andrei but watch that fight again he was losing until andrei threw that knee, but other than that nobodys when people say who has fedor fought they always prove my point with guys he fought b4 2005 give me top 10 fighters from 2006-2011, werdum is top ten in hw silva is prbly like 11 or 12 real close to breaking into the top ten, lets look at hendo, jake shields top ten in ww or mw, silva number 1 in mw, rich franklin he is always hanging around the top 10 in mw vitor belfort top 10 mw or lhw big nog was number 1 hw and hendo is not a hw so tell me how he is not a legend

Dist205 wrote:Thx for getting my post closed guys, I appreciate that!!

Leave Luke alone. Some people cant handle the truth. He's gonna believe what he wants. He loves his Brazilians the same way I stick up for the black guys. He still should have an open mind, but hey, to each is own.

King Mo will fuck everybody up in SF IMO

np m8 haha

im a brit and will support most brits for fights.

Semtex will fuck Diaz up!!!

Hendo's a legend, luke knows it. He probably just doesnt like american wrestling. I dont like guys either that just wrestle. I think guys from brazil r more well-rounded martial artists than american wrestlers IMO. I kinda feel luke because he's thinking what does hendo bring to the table besides wrestling and the H-Bomb, I feel that. The brazilians bring more attributes the majority of the time. Sometimes luke it comes down to brute strength, a nice right hand, and a strong wrestling base. Simple style but very effective!!

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Dist205 wrote:Thx for getting my post closed guys, I appreciate that!!

Leave Luke alone. Some people cant handle the truth. He's gonna believe what he wants. He loves his Brazilians the same way I stick up for the black guys. He still should have an open mind, but hey, to each is own.

King Mo will fuck everybody up in SF IMO

np m8 haha

im a brit and will support most brits for fights.

Semtex will fuck Diaz up!!!

Semtex will lay into nick. CANT WAIT!!

take a look at it
shogun won over , lil nog ,rampage ,overeem x2, ricado arona , mark coleman , chuck liddel , lyoto machida x2* (everybody knows he won the first fight too )
i clearly think shogunis better than hendo
and dude stfu some people say silva is the best p4p some people say its gsp its the same thing people think hendo is a legend people think hes not I THINK HE IS NOT .

and btw diaz will rape daley for those who think he will lose

well that may be but i think to be the champ in mma i think u should start out in wrestling and learn the other martial arts along the way now with that being said in straight grappling i think bjj is better cause u can sub where wrestling ur holding a guy down for a couple of sec to get a pin, but for mma take a wrestler and a bjj guy and put them both against siver or someother kickboxer with take down defense, the bjj guys tds are terrible for mma there slow, a wrestlers shot is much better to get the fight down to the ground, and i quote from eddie bravo pulling guard in mma is one of the hardest things to do, cause the guy might rampage ur ass

u r the only person i have ever heard say that hendo is not a legend even the people who dont like him say he is a legend

lol yeah i dont really like him myself, but he is what he is. I'm not gonna take anything away from the man just because i dont like him. The guy is 40 and is still previlant in MMA. U have to give props for that. Hendo is a true warrior, even though he not on my list of favorite fighters.

he is not in my list of fav fighters there are allot more fighters that i would rather watch, and like u said how can u take anything away from what he has accomplished

Lucas-JiuJitsu wrote:take a look at it
shogun won over , lil nog ,rampage ,overeem x2, ricado arona , mark coleman , chuck liddel , lyoto machida x2* (everybody knows he won the first fight too )
i clearly think shogunis better than hendo
and dude stfu some people say silva is the best p4p some people say its gsp its the same thing people think hendo is a legend people think hes not I THINK HE IS NOT .

and btw diaz will rape daley for those who think he will lose

dude we are gonna argue forever about this jj is the best separete martial arts and dude about mma its mixed martial arts every fighter trains at least bjj wrestling and a stand up martial arts like boxing or muaythai just cause hendo wrestle people doesn mean he doesnt know jiu jitsu you are being stupid and most of the fighter started doing bjj

Lucas-JiuJitsu wrote:dude we are gonna argue forever about this jj is the best separete martial arts IMO and dude about mma its mixed martial arts every fighter trains at least bjj wrestling and a stand up martial arts like boxing or muaythai just cause hendo wrestle people doesn mean he doesnt know jiu jitsu you are being stupid and most of the fighter started doing bjj

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Lucas-JiuJitsu wrote:dude we are gonna argue forever about this jj is the best separete martial arts PROVED and dude about mma its mixed martial arts every fighter trains at least bjj wrestling and a stand up martial arts like boxing or muaythai just cause hendo wrestle people doesn mean he doesnt know jiu jitsu you are being stupid and most of the fighter started doing bjj

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Lucas-JiuJitsu wrote:dude we are gonna argue forever about this jj is the best separete martial arts PROVED and dude about mma its mixed martial arts every fighter trains at least bjj wrestling and a stand up martial arts like boxing or muaythai just cause hendo wrestle people doesn mean he doesnt know jiu jitsu you are being stupid and most of the fighter started doing bjj

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Proof?

lets come back to UFC 1 ,2 and 4 what happened there can you tell me ? dont need ill tell you royce gracie won all those shit , why he did it 3 times ? because JJ is the best separete martial art.

he won due to jj being unknown. self defence wise, a stand up martial art is much better IMO because you can knock some wanker out instead of seriously injuring him. we need to make another thread dont we mate for this arguement :P

dude to start mma wrestling is the best to start with in a pure grappling match the rules are completely different u cant compare, but for mma u can control and win fights easily for mma with jj its much harder to be on ur back and win and i FUCKING KNOW THEY TRAIN ALL WHAT IM SAYING TO GET INTO MMA god damn lol, read what im trying to say b4 making a comment, there are allot of bjj black belts who suck off their back in mma and get put on their back in fights and cant do nothing because the dominant wrestler beats them down

and stand up is the worst to start mma cause u can throw punches w/o technique and ko people, if a pure punching fighter in mma gets put on their back against a wrestler or jj guy they r fucked, shields vs daley, mir vs kongo are a couple of fights u should watch

this is what is wrong with this site no one can have opinions.. as soon as someone disagrees with someone they jump down there throat this is a stupid thread and shouldnt even have been posted .. sabby stop being cry baby just because someone doesnt agree with you

sabby_92 wrote:dude to start mma wrestling is the best to start with in a pure grappling match the rules are completely different u cant compare, but for mma u can control and win fights easily for mma with jj its much harder to be on ur back and win and i FUCKING KNOW THEY TRAIN ALL WHAT IM SAYING TO GET INTO MMA god damn lol, read what im trying to say b4 making a comment, there are allot of bjj black belts who suck off their back in mma and get put on their back in fights and cant do nothing because the dominant wrestler beats them down

Sounds like the Sakara fight

Fedor-Legend screw you sabby.

Hendo- Legend

BJ- Could be better if he wasn't relying on his natural abilities. Not a legend IMO

RajisBoss123 wrote:this is what is wrong with this site no one can have opinions.. as soon as someone disagrees with someone they jump down there throat this is a stupid thread and shouldnt even have been posted .. sabby stop being cry baby just because someone doesnt agree with you

Raj its not the site its society. This shit goes on in every forum. People dont like disagreements. People always feel that someone should agree with them. Its life dude, not the forum. I actually dont mind this type of stuff. How can anyone take anything personal, when ur online and nobody knows u. Its kinda funny to me.

umm because it gets annoying every friggin forum gets like this especially sabby you take everything so damn personally

This is a very gd small community compared to other mma forums. So many passionate yet retarded people on the UG lol

if fedor would have retired b4 he lost those fights i prbly would have said he was a legend but allot of those fights were trash can fights but his fights from 06 to 10 were trash can fights he beat rogers but look at that first rd bret was on top and beating on him and punched him on his chin look at what overeem did to him, he destroyed him, and raj im not being a cry baby i want specific details on why lucas doesnt think hendo is a legend if he cant come up with any, its a conversation if i bring up facts on why he is a legend and all he comes back with well imo he isnt a legend and that its! tell me fucking why he isnt a legend is that so hard to ask. say imo hendo isnt a legend, thats not a opinion, a opinion is somebody saying something and backing it up, i backed up everything i say here and if some1 disagrees cool back it up, thats why i get so pissed here no one ever backs up anything i say something then all i get is imo WTF! back up the shit ur saying with stuff

DUDE LEAVE IT ALONE .. i swear you had to make a whole forum about this really what are you 5

im not taking it personal i want to see why he doesnt think he is a legend, if u say something and cant back it up then shut the fuck up i dont wanna hear from u, if u can carry a conversation, like the guy who said that bj only relies on his natural talent, thats perfect he backed up why he wasnt a legend if all i get is imo, i wanna hear ur reason not just imo, i put all my facts out there on fedor and told u why imo he wasnt a legend, why cant lucas back up what he is saying, nissia and i stated all the facts why he was a legend so whats his problem i dont if u dont like him but why are u saying he isnt a legend

no im not 5 if u say something u should be able to back it up

Beatdown214 wrote:Fedor-Legend screw you sabby.

Hendo- Legend

BJ- Could be better if he wasn't relying on his natural abilities. Not a legend IMO

boom there u go he stated why in his opinion bj wasnt a legend

i think bj is a legend for a couple of reasons only two men have held belts in different weight classes in the ufc couture and bj
if it wasnt for bj there would be no lw division he received a black belt in 3 yrs which is unheard of, is one of the greatest lws ever has gone up to mw and won which is crazy, gave machidia a run for his money almost won that fight

lol sabby you are so strange people here just bring the fact that hendo is a legend after he won over feijão before that he was nothing here lol and sabby back up your opinion dude do you think a fighter can win forever , hendo IS GOING TO LOSE SOON NO WAY HE WILL SCAPE IT like fedor and when he starts to lose it means its time to retire , and it doesnt make a guy lose his legend status doesnt mean that since liddel lost to franklin hes a shit fighter it means his out of his prime and its tome to retire so he is still a legend, and dude what beatdown said is perfect bjj was the best cause no one knew it HELLOOO wrestlers are good just cause they know what a bjj fighter will do so it means the know bjj they know they will try an armbar or a triangle and its my opinion hendo is NOT a legend period

ok now lucas you are saying only bjj guys are legends

DUDE he was a legend b4 he beat fejiao i would be calling u fucking stupid if u said this b4 fejiao, and for some fucking reason u still didnt back ur opinion up so do it now. hendo is a legend its like saying, couture isnt a legend, lidell isnt a legend hendo has accomplished so much in mma that no one else has

and the reason why people bring up the legend stuff now, HE WON A BELT AT 40 HE HAS WON A BELT IN THREE DIFFERENT PROMOTIONS

RajisBoss123 wrote:ok now lucas you are saying only bjj guys are legends

no this is about when we were arguing about which was the best separete martial art no about full mma and not about jj guys being legends in mma

I think wandy is more of a legend than any of these guys .. maybe just a lil more than chuck
\heres my back up

wandy left it all in the ring you have never seen a fight from him win or lose
also outside of the cage he does alot with helping people and with fighters / one of the nicest guys in the world/ and i love how outside the cage he is the friendliest guy out there but once he gets into the cage he turns into a raged beast

sabby_92 wrote:and the reason why people bring up the legend stuff now, HE WON A BELT AT 40 HE HAS WON A BELT IN THREE DIFFERENT PROMOTIONS

lol ok shogun won meca world ,pride , ufc , turma do juquinha mma lol
i won the state jj champ and a regional jj champ and now i won my city jj championship wow im a jj legend now ahahaahahahaha
dude I DONT THINK HENDO IS A LEGEND PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD
if you dont think shogun is a legend good for you if you dont think anderson is a legend good for you is there an official list of who is a legend or not ? nooooooooooooo
and hendo just won strike force cause he is out ufc im sure cain would win a champ in strikeforce i know shogun would too anderson gsp even edgar would beat melendez i dont agree with you .

RajisBoss123 wrote:I think wandy is more of a legend than any of these guys .. maybe just a lil more than chuck
\heres my back up

wandy left it all in the ring you have never seen a fight from him win or lose
also outside of the cage he does alot with helping people and with fighters / one of the nicest guys in the world/ and i love how outside the cage he is the friendliest guy out there but once he gets into the cage he turns into a raged beast

agreed , and wandy put some of the sickest fights ever

RajisBoss123 wrote:I think wandy is more of a legend than any of these guys .. maybe just a lil more than chuck
\heres my back up

wandy left it all in the ring you have never seen a fight from him win or lose
also outside of the cage he does alot with helping people and with fighters / one of the nicest guys in the world/ and i love how outside the cage he is the friendliest guy out there but once he gets into the cage he turns into a raged beast

BA BAM

even though i am 50/50 on what he said here i respect that he backed up why he is a legend (the 50/50) was i think chuck and wandy are on a same lvl of legendness i think chuck is just a lil bit higher but i do wish that fight was 5 rds not 3, i give him the edge cause he won the fight

i still think they shoulda fought in pride .. i think it would have been more legendary than it already is

no need for this tread , closed